Lee Burge admits it can be tough being number two goalkeeper, but says learning from Jon McLaughlin was a major factor behind his move to Sunderland last summer.
Burge arrived from Coventry City at the end of his contract with the Sky Blues last summer, but always arrived at Sunderland knowing he was to be second-choice goalkeeper to McLaughlin.
But it always going to be a change in culture for the shot-stopper who, after coming through the Coventry youth academy, had been first choice for the past three seasons.
Despite that, Burge has been praised for his professionalism throughout his time at Sunderland - with he and McLaughlin growing a close, competitive friendship that sees both support one another no matter which of the pair is in possession of the jersey at any one time.
Reflecting on his first season on Wearside before the season was suspended, Burge told Sunderland Live: "I think Jon is great. When I first came here he was someone that I wanted to come and learn from, and he was great with me when I was in the team.
"It's now vice-versa, and as long as I help the team in any way then that's what I want to do.
"Phil Parkinson has been fine. It's a tough position to be in, but you've just got to keep going and be ready at any sort of point. You don't know what's going to happen - it could be a day before the game, you just don't know. You've got to be ready.
"Lee Butler [Sunderland's goalkeeper coach] has been great too. He's come in and has been great with me.
"He's worked a lot with me and I feel like I've improved under him. He is working me very hard and that's all I want, especially when you're out of the team as you've got to keep doing extra and keep on your toes to be ready for the team if you're needed.
"He was a good goalie when he was playing, and it's good to be with him and learn from him every day."
The season is currently suspended due to the coronavirus crisis, with Sunderland seventh in table, but only three points off the automatic promotion places.
There is plenty of uncertainty surrounding the resumption of the league and promotion, but before this Burge was confident Sunderland could still fight for a top-two finish.
"We've got every chance of being up there, and we've got every chance of winning every game before the end of the season," the goalkeeper said.
"As long as we're up there, I'm not too bothered what happens."