We could have started by talking about the 19,785 first class runs, the three England caps or the trophy triumphs with Glamorgan.

Alternatively, we could have kicked off with the administrative career, which saw him rise to the heights of managing director of the England and Wales Cricket Board and oversee a succession of Ashes victories.

But, instead, my conversation with Hugh Morris begins with the 27 points he scored on his first-class rugby debut!

Now I know egg-chasing is my thing, but I can’t take all the blame for this, as he did mention it himself.

While cricket has been his life for the last 40 years, he’s also had a long-standing love of rugby.

And, in his younger days, the boy from Cowbridge excelled at both sports.

“Growing up as a kid, I loved my rugby and I loved my cricket,” he explains.

“My two ambitions were to play rugby for Wales at Cardiff Arms Park and to play cricket for England at Lord’s.

“I was lucky enough to get a sports scholarship at Blundell’s School down in Devon, where my grandfather had been a pupil back in the 1920s.

“I was about 12 at the time.

“When I went to Blundell’s first of all, rugby was my number one sport, I guess.

“But I quite quickly realised I was better at cricket.

“I did all right at rugby, but I knew deep down I never really had the kind of pace to play at anywhere near the highest levels.

“So when I was around 14 or 15, cricket began to take over really.”

Such was his talent as a left-handed batsman that he made his Glamorgan debut as a schoolboy at the age of 17, but that wasn’t the end of his rugby.

“When I got to 18, I then had a decision to make,” he recalls.

“I was offered a three year contract by Glamorgan, but I was also offered a place at South Glamorgan Institute of Higher Education, as it was then.

“That gave me an opportunity to potentially play three years of first-class rugby, because at that time they used to play Cardiff, Swansea, Pontypool, all of those guys.

“The idea of being able to do that and get a degree behind me was something I chose to do.”

Hugh Morris at the crease during Glamorgan's Axa Equity and Law League match against Kent at Canterbury in 1993, which they won to clinch the title

So Morris headed for the Cyncoed college to do Human Movement Studies, essentially a sports science degree.

And that’s how we get around to the young fly-half’s first-class rugby debut during the 1983-84 season.

“Some of my contemporaries then were that great full-back from Ely, Mr Phil Steele, Kevin Hopkins, John Devereux and Geraint John,” he says.

“Unfortunately for Geraint, who was an outstanding rugby player, he had a really bad injury and I kind of stepped in and played some matches for the first team.

“I made my debut against Penarth up at Cyncoed and we managed to put 60 points on them that day. I think it was 27 points I scored, with two tries.

“I went down and played half a dozen games or so for Aberavon during that season as well.

“In 1984, I got a Welsh Students cap, playing against France down at St Helen’s. Kevin Hopkins was the captain, while Paul Thorburn, Ieuan Evans and Rob Jones were in the squad too.

“I really enjoyed my rugby in those three years at Cyncoed. It was a great opportunity, a great bunch of boys and a fantastic time.

“I had some great experiences and I’m really glad I did it.

“Looking back, I was really lucky. At that time, you could play rugby in the winter and cricket in the summer.

“I will always remember, I played down at St Helen’s for Glamorgan, one of the last games of cricket of the season, around about 1984.

“It was late August, early September, and then three weeks later I was playing rugby down there.

“It was a time when there were two very distinct seasons.

“Professional contracts in cricket were from April 1 to September 30, so in the winter you were free to go and do what you wanted to do, really.”

Hugh Morris batting for England at Lord's against Sri Lanka in August 1991

The big anomaly was that while Morris was a left-handed batsman, he kicked a rugby ball with his right boot.

So explain that one?

“Literally the only two things I do left-handed are bat and play golf,” he said.

“Everything else I do right-handed. I write right-handed, I throw right-handed.

“What happened was when I was very, very young, I played cricket in the garden and I used to hold the bat with my top hand at the bottom and my bottom hand at the top.

“So rather than turning my hands round, my old man turned me around and it just seemed quite natural at the time.”

The unique method certainly worked for Morris, who began to make a real name for himself as he piled up the runs for Glamorgan and it came to a point where he had to hang up his rugby boots.

“I left university when I was 21 and then I spent two winters down in South Africa, playing cricket for a team in Northern Transvaal,” he said.

“I was a fully fledged pro at that stage, so I didn’t play any rugby out there.

“Then, in the winter of around 1987, I stayed back here just to have a bit of a break from it all.

“One of my former college mates, Paul Roberts, was playing for Newport at the time in the back row.

“He suggested I went down and had a game for Newport United, which I did. I only played three or four matches for them and tore my cartilage against Bath United at The Rec.

“I thought ‘That’s it’ and that was my last game.

“I probably played 40 odd first-class matches in all.

“It kind of came to an inevitable end really. My career was always going to be cricket.

“But, although I stopped playing, I always continued my passion for the game and following Welsh rugby, even when I was living in England with the ECB job.”

The leadership qualities Morris would later show in administration were apparent early on in his career, with his appointment as Glamorgan’s youngest ever captain at the age of 22, a post he held for two spells - 1986-89 and 1993-95.

After a steady accumulation of runs over a number of years, he was called up to make his England debut in July 1991.

That saw him opening the innings against the terrifying West Indies pace attack of Curtley Ambrose, Courtney Walsh, Malcolm Marshall and Patrick Patterson.

It was a brutal experience and there are some famous photos of Morris leaping skywards, with both feet off the ground, trying to avoid the missiles aimed in his direction.

“When I got picked for that fourth Test match, I had no illusions,” he said.

“I knew it was going to be incredibly difficult.

“We lost that game, but then in the final Test, we beat them.

“Ian Botham played in that game and it was the first time Beefy had ever beaten the West Indies in a Test match, in 15 years of playing for England.

“That kind of brought home how special it was and how unusual anybody beating them was at that stage.

“So I look back on that with fond memories.

"I also got to fulfil my dream of playing in a Test match at Lord's that summer, against Sri Lanka.

"Playing for England was something that right from a kid I’d always wanted to do and it was a fantastic experience and the highlight of my career.”

Hugh Morris led Glamorgan on one of their most memorable days at Canterbury
Skipper Hugh Morris led Glamorgan to the Sunday League title in 1993

Other highlights were to follow with Glamorgan, including skippering them to the 1993 Sunday League title and sharing in the 1997 County Championship triumph.

“They were very proud moments in my career,” he said.

“We knew we were getting a really good group of players together in the late 1980s, early 1990s.

“You could see the likes of Steve James, Adrian Dale and Steve Watkin coming through.

“We began to get some results in the early ‘90s and then, when Viv Richards came to us, it was a catalyst.

“He really was the cement that tied us all together. To have someone of his stature and his competitive nature was just hugely important to us.

“When we won the Sunday League down in Canterbury in 1993, it was the first time we had won anything in 24 years.

“So that was a really important milestone for the club and, being Viv’s last game of professional cricket as well, it was a fairytale send-off for him.

“It was a very emotional time and almost relief.

“Carrying on from that then, we got Waqar Younis into the club, again a world class talent.

“Of the 1997 side, I think five of us played for England and, with Waqar in the team as well, we knew we were going to be pretty competitive.

“It was one of my remaining ambitions to play in a Glamorgan side that won the Championship.

“We started off on a bit of roll and just want from there really. That was a memorable summer for us because I thought we played really well all the way through.”

After 17 seasons with Glamorgan, Morris opted to bow out on a high by retiring from playing following the 1997 Championship success.

He then moved straight into administration as technical director of the ECB, looking after all of the junior England teams.

Morris runs from the field in Taunton following Glamorgan's win against Somerset which clinched the 1997 County Championship title

“It was like one chapter closing and another one opening,” he says.

“I could certainly have played for another two or three years, but it was just too good an opportunity to miss, so I jumped at it.”

Several senior roles followed, including acting chief executive and managing director of cricket, with Morris overseeing three consecutive Ashes series victories over Australia.

But there was to be a major bump in the road along the way, when he was diagnosed with throat cancer in December 2002.

“It was completely out of the blue,” he reveals.

“I was 38 at the time.

“Typically, with head and neck cancer, it tends to affect older people who have either smoked or drunk a lot.

“I enjoyed my red wine, but nothing stupid, and never smoked in my life.

“I was actually staying fit. I was running and playing five-a-side football.

“Then one day, I discovered a lump on the left hand side of my neck while I was shaving.

“I didn’t really think much of it, but to cut a long story short, I ended up going to a consultant.

“He wasn’t too worried to start with. He cut the tumour out of my neck. By that stage, it was the size of a chicken’s egg.

“He then called me 48 hours later and said we need to speak to you and bring your wife with you.

“It’s just horrendous. You just know what it is then.

“He said it was secondary cancer and booked me in with a specialist by the name of Rogan Courbridge.

“I went to see Rogan in Oxford the next day and he did a number of operations on me. He did some biopsies on my nose, the back of my throat, my tongue, he took my tonsils out.

“That was just before Christmas 2002. I then went to see him the first week of January 2003 and he said they had found the primary tumour in one of my tonsils.

“So I had a bilateral neck dissection which took all my glands out and six weeks of radiotherapy.

“Then I had to have plastic surgery on my neck. I had four or five different operations altogether.

“It’s very tough mentally, as well as physically.

“My twin girls were eight at the time and it was just a really worrying time for the family. It’s scary.”

He continued: “As a professional sportsman, you always think of yourself as bulletproof and in cricket you get plenty of chances.

“I was lucky enough to play in more than 300 games for Glamorgan and if you nicked a ball you knew you would get another game to put things right.

“But when you are sitting down in front of a doctor, at 38, and he says you are suffering from a very serious health issue, it is a totally different kettle of fish.

“It was just a complete shock. I had never really been ill before that and certainly not in a serious way. It turned my world upside-down.

“But I always like to think I am the type of person that thinks a glass is half full rather than half empty and that is the way I approached things, with a positive attitude.”

Morris lost some three-and-a-half stone during the course of his gruelling treatment, but fought back to health and, after five years of regular checks and monitoring, he was given the all clear in 2007.

He went on to become the patron of a charity for head and neck cancer and helped raise £300,000 over the next eight or nine years.

In 2013, after a highly successful period with the ECB, he returned to his beloved Glamorgan and remains the county’s chief executive today, at the age of 56.

“This year is my 40th year in professional cricket, as a player or administrator,” he said.

“To be involved in something you’ve got a real passion for is fantastic.

“There is no substitute for playing, that’s always the highlight.

Hugh Morris pictured during his time as the ECB's managing director of cricket

“But I have derived massive satisfaction from a lot of the other roles I have had.

“I look back very fondly on my time as ECB managing director, working with Andrew Strauss and Andy Flower.

“We won three Ashes series back-to-back for the first time in 60 years and won the ICC 20-20 in Barbados.

“So, a lot of highlights from that and a great deal of satisfaction.

“I’ve been back at Glamorgan now for six and a half years and I am really enjoying it.

“I work with a lot of really good people there.

“Throughout my whole career, I’ve been very, very lucky.”