Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville were involved in a heated debate over the state of Newcastle United on Sky Sports' Monday Night Football.

The punditry duo broke down whether Magpies fans can be upset at how the team are playing under Steve Bruce and how the manager is doing in comparison to former boss Rafa Benitez.

Neville also spoke about whether the culture at Newcastle is the best mentality to reproduce what fans want.

Here is everything they said during the debate.

Carragher on Sheffield United defeat

"It was one of the worst performances I think I’ve seen from a team this season and you have to factor in who they were up against, a team that hadn’t won in the Premier League this season.

"The Newcastle supporters get a lot of criticism for, ‘what do they want?’ - I think most fans in this country know they’re not going to win anything, everyone knows that.

"We’re lucky because we support teams that have a chance. Most teams want a bit of hope, and at this moment, Newcastle supporters don’t like the owner, the manager or the team, so there’s nothing they can buy into at this minute."

Carragher on whether he sees progress

"No, I don’t. They’re a poor team, a club like Newcastle and a team like that will always be ‘in progress’, they’ll always be looking to progress and improve things. I was a bit worried when Steve Bruce said, ‘it’s my way now’, I think he probably regrets that he didn’t do that 18 months ago. As a manager, you want to come in and do your thing."

Carragher on Bruce and Benitez comparisons

"We’ve been on this show and we’ve been very critical of Rafa Benitez. In Man City and Liverpool games, they had 20 per cent possession, we’d say ‘can’t they attack more and be a bit more adventurous? This is Newcastle’. So we’ve been critical.

"What I would say is Steve Bruce has come in and the position they’re in points-wise and in the table is not too different. The biggest problem for Newcastle fans at the moment is how poor the displays are.

"In almost every category you can look at, Newcastle are down. If you look at goals and xG, they’re slightly better with Rafa Benitez and shots is better too.

"That’s a team we criticised for having a lack of adventure being better than the team we’re seeing now. Everything attack wise is different.

"Under 50 per cent possession which, when you’re a team near the bottom, is going to happen a lot of the time. But 47 out of 55 games they’ve had less possession than the opposition.

"The big one is under 30 per cent possession, the fact that’s been 13 times, it’s not enough.

"Yes, at the start of the season, we’d expect Newcastle to possibly be in the position they’re in but, when you see those numbers, that’s what the complaint is from the fans, how they’re actually performing.

"The problem I have watching Newcastle is that, yes, they’re not as good going forward and we’ve seen clips of them playing deep defensively, but they’re not actually better defensively even though they attack less."

Neville on Newcastle culture

"The unhappiness towards this manager is embedded just from their history, rather than who he is and the job he is doing. If I was a Newcastle fan, I’d be unhappy now, I’d be unhappy under Rafa Benitez, I’d be unhappy under Steve McClaren, I’d be unhappy under the previous three managers before that. It’s been appalling for the last 10 or 12 years, I think choosing to look between Benitez and Bruce, I don’t see any difference, because the key thing, for me, in football, is points.

"Rafa Benitez spent two seasons in the Premier League, he’s a manager who has been regarded as one of the best in the world over the last 15 years. I think he was on £6m-a-year at Newcastle, I don’t think he’s four times the amount of Steve Bruce.

"In his first season, he got 44 points, in his second season, he got 45 points and last season, Bruce got 44 points - he’s matched him for points. At this stage of the season, in the last four seasons after this amount of games, Benitez had 15 points in 2017/18, he had 16 points in 2018/19, Steve Bruce last year had 22 points and this year he’s got 19 points. Steve Bruce has actually got more points at this stage of the season than Rafa Benitez did in both of his seasons.

"What Rafa Benitez has is a fantastic PR company, people like Jamie, and he had a wonderful rapport with the fans because he demonstrated loyalty by sticking with the club in the Championship and he gave them hope, but I thought the football was awful when I watched it under Rafa Benitez.

"My point is, this is something culturally set at Newcastle. It’s not a Steve Bruce problem. I've not spoken to Steve Bruce for 12 years even though I played with him and this is not a Steve Bruce defence piece.

"Newcastle have a cultural problem where the football expectation is attacking, enthralling, thrilling football for the fans who are passionate about the club and they’ve been served up dire tripe for the last 10 years. It’s nothing to do with the last four years.

"You can give them that type of football, but my point is - the ownership and executive at that club have not delivered that football to these fans for years and years. It’s nothing to do with Bruce and Benitez. It's been awful for years when I go up there, I get demoralised when I go to Newcastle now, I should be inspired.

"I don’t think it’s anything to do with those stats I’ve seen today because Steve Bruce’s points tally is very similar to Rafa Benitez’s."

Carragher on the ownership

"I think the biggest problem, no doubt, is the ownership. You talk about the amount of managers that have come in, that will never change. They've made Newcastle - and hopefully the supporters won't be upset with this - when I look at Burnley and West Brom, they play to get 38 points, and I don't think their fans are massively unhappy as they're delighted to be in the Premier League. Sean Dyche and Sam Allardyce will do amazing to keep them up.

"I love the fact there are different styles in the Premier League but Newcastle fans and as a club can never be happy to just be in the Premier League.

"They need to be a presence in the Premier League, I look at them like a West Ham or an Everton where they should be challenging for Europe and the top eight.

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"Yet, as I said before, those clubs will never believe they'll win something, but they have hope. Right now, Everton have hope because of Ancelotti.

"We're comparing Benitez and Bruce, I said myself I criticised Benitez on this show, but what Benitez gives Newcastle fans is hope - 'if there's a takeover we've got a Champions League-winning top manager who can take us forward'.

"Newcastle supporters aren't expecting to be challenging in the Champions League places with Steve Bruce, Alan Pardew, Steve McClaren or Rafa Benitez. They just want a bit of hope and that's what Rafa Benitez gave them.

Neville on the takeover issue

"The North East, for many years out of the last 10, that part of the world has been decimated in terms of Premier League football.

"The investment's not gone into those football clubs, it's gone into the North West and London clubs. We need somehow the ownership to change in those North East clubs so that they can get the football and the players up there they deserve.

"They have massive fanbases, great clubs, great grounds, but when we go up there, we're served what we're served. That's whether it's Rafa Benitez who is manager, who is one of the best managers over the last 15 or 20 years, or Steve McClaren or Steve Bruce. There's a bit of managerial snobbery going on there because I thought Benitez got away with a lot up there as he had a rapport with the fans.

"That's not a criticism of Benitez as no manager has been able to change it since or before."