When it comes to Newcastle United legends, there's been a few - if anything, the word 'legend' is sometimes overused when it comes to describing a former player or manager.
Yet for Joe Harvey, describing him as a legend of the club is perhaps not enough.
How do you label a double FA Cup-winning captain, and a European cup winning manager who gave nearly 50 years to Newcastle?
I was sitting in Bob Moncur's back garden earlier this summer - he was the man Harvey picked as captain and lifted the Fairs Cup in 1969 - and he described him as 'Newcastle United's Greatest Ever Servant.'
Instantly, I knew I had found the title to the latest The Everything is Black and White Podcast documentary.
Joe - Newcastle United's Greatest Ever Servant, puts together the story of Harvey from his playing career to the days learning the ropes of management at Barrow and Workington to the return to St James' Park and the success that followed.
From the promotion to the top flight in 1965, to the Fairs Cup triumph four years later and the heartache of Wembley in 1974 - those who played under Harvey, tell The Everything is Black and White what happened in some of the club's finest moments.
Moncur is joined by Malcolm Macdonald, Frank Clark, Irving Nattrass, Tony Green, John Anderson and Ron McGarry - while Harvey's son, Ken, shares an insight into his dad's way of thinking.
Our very own John Gibson and the club's official historical Paul Joannou also take part.
It's a journey of not just a captain or manager but mentor and friend - as we find out about Harvey's skills in the dugout, his snappy team talks and his love for a cigarette.
This is Joe - Newcastle United's Greatest Ever Servant.