Rhondda MP Chris Bryant dropped the mic on talkRADIO host Dan Wootton today, hanging up on the presenter after calling him "a nutcase" for his position on the herd immunity theory.
The MP was appearing on the phone-in radio talkshow to talk about the effectiveness of local lockdowns, following the announcement of the fire-break shut down in Wales, which comes into force on Friday, October 23 at 6pm.
Bryant explained at the start of the call that the local NHS was in danger of becoming overwhelmed with Covid cases and that's why the fire-break was neccessary.
It was after the MP stated his case that things started to get a bit spiky and Wootton argued for herd immunity to overcome coronavirus.
Wootton said that they were going to disagree on locking down as he said "there are two schools of thought" on the issue.
Bryant said there wasn't and on the one side there were scientific experts and on the other "crackpots".
"You do understand that science has forever used herd immunity to deal with these viruses," said Wootton, before Bryant interjected with "You subscribe to herd immunity?"
Executive editor of The Sun Wootton said he did and that we could "protect the vulnerable".
Not giving up, the politician asked him how that would happen.
"Chris you can go off now. Get rid of this man!" said Wootton. But it was too late, Bryant cancelled the call.
Earlier in the call the host said he was angry that people were "at home too scared to go to hospital" resulting in ONS figures of an ' excess of 26,000,' he claimed.
Bryant went on to explain the thought behind the fire-break lockdown to the host, saying: "The main thing we're trying to do in my part of the world is to try and make sure that the NHS isn't overwhelmed. As someone who's had cancer in the last 18 months I'm painfully aware of the issue you've raised about what happens to people who don't present to their doctor because they are scared.
"But the other side of that problem, and we've done really well to make sure that cancer is being dealt with in a Covid-free setting, using the private sector hospitals in Cardiff. But the real danger is that if the NHS, if my local general hospital, or the three that serve my area, are overwhelmed and are completely full of Covid, which we're getting for now, then you try to add a little bit of flu, there will be no space in the hospitals to deal with any other medical condition whatsoever.
"So your argument is a false one, it's not a choice between trying to care for people with other conditions and Covid. You have to deal with the Covid situation, you have restrict the transmission of the virus if you're going to stand a chance of treating people with cancer."
Since the broadcast the Rhondda MP has shared both positive and negative reactions to the appearance, including this abuse.
The feud continued on Twitter with Bryant calling Wootton "Trump-lite" and a "conspiracy theorist".
Wootton stood by his argument against local lockdowns and tweeted: "Abusing someone because I disagree with a policy of national lockdowns. On a day when figures show 26,000 poor souls died at home between March and September because they couldn’t or wouldn’t go to hospital. Right..."
You can see more of the interview at talkRADIO's website.